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02 Feb 2015 20:11:38
the talk here in Oz is that Curtis Good has been told to find another club.

desree

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03 Feb 2015 16:57:40
Would not surprise me
A decent player left to rot

Just wonder who is making these decisions as Carver reckons he is not involved same goes for the lonees to Rangers

vida

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03 Feb 2015 21:38:09
he's had rotten luck with injuries.

geordietoon

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04 Feb 2015 03:21:25
Anyone else tired of the circus?

stoggin

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05 Feb 2015 06:22:53
The circus is good fun (except for me as I have a phobia of clowns), supporting NUFC is far from fun. Although it is a bit easier since we lost one of the clowns to Palace

desree

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05 Feb 2015 21:22:42
Good Bye Football World we're iff to join the Circus!

vida

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02 Feb 2015 09:18:31
So the rumour is that Santon is going to Inter on loan. Utter madness. We only have 2 fit centre backs and neither of them is playing well (Willo is not capable playing well) so the only other player we have apart from untried kids that can play there is Dummet. SO what happens when inevitably Haidara gets injured and Dummet has to play in the centre? Utter utter madness unless we are bringing in another CB which of course we will not be. Also what if Janmaat gets injured who plays right back when Santon could?Why do it? If Santon is not happy on the bench tough poo, he has to wait for his opportunity which surely will come. If we are cash rich there is no need to get him off the books. Utter Utter Utter madness.

SpireToon

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02 Feb 2015 16:12:08
Its more than madness, its a disgrace. If it's true what his lass said that he rejected the first offer from Inter, and the club forced him out. Santon may have had bad days, but he's something like 23/24, so he will definitely get better and he was clearly settled here and seemed to love it and have a passion for us.

JToon JToon

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02 Feb 2015 17:17:56
I got no problem with santon going if it frees up a squad place for a new CB in, trouble is it we won't get a CB.

Kooks

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02 Feb 2015 17:20:27
She's just pi$$ed off because she has to leave he Mam and go to Milan to live now.

SpireToon

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02 Feb 2015 21:04:07
robert huth has gone to leicester, he has to be better than williamson

desree

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02 Feb 2015 23:11:11
Santons girlfriend is a better centre half than Williamson

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02 Feb 2015 09:16:52
Don't expect us to sign anyone today but a few may go. Wouldn't be too fussed if Santon and Tiote went as seem to have better players in squad so won't miss them.

Looks like the MK Dons guy is going to go to Spurs as think he wants to stay in London area.

Spurs have some decent players that we should be looking at. Dembele would be a great signing as has premiership experience and is a good passer of the ball which is something we lack. Capoue could be a gamble but a loan for him could be an idea.

Is obvious to everyone that we need a CB. Should go for Micah Richards as is English with premiership experience. Reports today that Gary Cahill is now well down the pecking order at Chelsea, he would be great for us but if he is available I would imagine that Man U would be in for him looking at the state of their defence.

Hopefully Villa go down then Benteke may be available in the summer.

DR. Toonman

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02 Feb 2015 12:08:26
So if Janmaat gets injured who plays right back, Anita? If Haidara gets injured and Dummet is playing centre bnack who plays left back?
Cahill is on 100k + per week, no chance and why would Benteke join us when he will offers to play for CL teams or even teams willing to pay him the going rate for a top striker.
My only hope is that we are actually signing someone to replace Santon.

SpireToon

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02 Feb 2015 12:13:55
Micah Richards is a no go, he is on loan at fiorentina. Plus I think he has played for man city in the community shield so he can't play for 3 clubs in 1 season. Cahill is no chance.
I can't understand the clubs reluctance to sign a CB, with santon set to go it would make a lot of sense for us to sign a right footed CB. Who could step in at RB should janmaat/anita be injured. Coloccini will probably go home in the summer so would be a very good opportunity to sign a good centre back, the last one we were linked with was Douglas but Kinnear ****ed that up. Too much competition for Van dijk so inflated price, Fabien Schar would have been good but all too late. We will probably make another half hearted attempt to sign tomkins just so it looks like we tried

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02 Feb 2015 13:44:02
we are getting close to safety from relegation so is it not time to give Good Street or Sakta a couple of games at CB other teams have dome it and prospered, after all they can't be any worse than willo and collo at the moment

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02 Feb 2015 15:34:30
That is dangerous talk Des. We are more than capable of blowing up an not getting another 10 points, Carver may have got his first win but his record as caretaker is appalling.

SpireToon

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02 Feb 2015 19:40:45
get the kids in, can't help but think Carver will get the job in the summer. Any one with half a brain will stay well clear. Why does this club continually weaken itself in transfer windows just to save a few bob?

desree

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27 Jan 2015 10:16:09
deli alli and tyrone mings are rumoured to be january signings for NUFC.

desree

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27 Jan 2015 10:50:36
and David Concha from Racing Santander

geordietom

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27 Jan 2015 18:43:56
and Jorge Mere from Sporting Gijon

JToon JToon

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27 Jan 2015 20:13:40
sorry lads it was tyrone from corry and a lad called ali from the deli. He's just been hired for the hot dog stand!

desree

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28 Jan 2015 16:13:10
des this ali from the deli does he do gerkins

geordietom

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28 Jan 2015 20:34:44
for an extra quid

desree

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26 Jan 2015 15:39:07
so Carvers got the job till the end of the season. hopefully they have some one decent lined up for the job in the summer. hope they've got someone to take us up a few levels. keeping Carver till end of the season CHEAP SKATES TIGHT AR. SES OWT TO SAVE MONEY. i wish he would leave sell up move to rangers can't come quick enough for me hate him for what he's doing to wor club. Delle Alli any truth in the rumour ? ED you heard owt on this m8 !

geordietom

{Ed001's Note - Newcastle have had scouts at MK Dons games on a regular basis throughout the season. I would assume it was for him as I don't know of any other players they have had throughout the season that it could be. Though I do know Ashley sees a marketable value in Devante Cole, so I am sure that he will also be looked at now he has joined them on loan.}

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26 Jan 2015 17:01:04
I have seen a few articles about Ravel Morrison aswell, not sure of some people are just taking a punt (journalists). But it would sort of make sense, he looked class for west ham start of last season then went off the rails a bit. Cashley might see him as a small investment they could pay off massively if he concentrates on football. Ferguson said that he way his best youngster for potential even when Pogba was about so he has to be pretty damn good

DannoToon

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26 Jan 2015 19:51:00
take a punt on him we coped with Ranger and a couple of other nutters, he might just change

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22 Jan 2015 19:18:06
If reports in the media are correct, Garde isn't interested in taking over at Toon because he cannot bring his two coaches with him from Lyon days and would have to work with Carver and Stone. What does Ashley not understand about " clean sweep and new start "?

faircomment

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22 Jan 2015 20:53:17
Surely the role of carver and stone would be to execute whatever coaching the head coach instructs them to do? From a business perspective it makes a bit of sense for continuity. Plus Carver would know the players well I guess. Not agreeing with it, as a businessman myself I agree with the practice. As a fan it makes me sick!

desree

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23 Jan 2015 07:27:01
I am going to go mental if we choose McClaren over the likes of Garde, FDB and Laudrup simply because we have to "pay" to change the back room staff.

Only at Newcastle this could be a problem, any other normal club they'd bring in the new manager's own coaches so it is a clean slate as you say FC

JToon JToon

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23 Jan 2015 18:49:44
for Pardew we got £3m compo Carver and Stone would expect £2m tyhat makes a proffit of 1m go for it

Destoon

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24 Jan 2015 09:53:37
i don't see why the club can't keep them. I've always felt we've been lacking when it comes to coaches. If Garde wants to bring a GK coach with him then give Woodman's son a new contract and get rid of the dad.

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24 Jan 2015 13:56:38
You get what you are given and this appointment is for Ashley and only Ashley so he can continue to strip TV money out of the club
Wake Up what we fans want does not count and for sure it will be the cheapest alternative and a coach who will accept Ashley's rule.

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24 Jan 2015 20:40:05
You always know Vida is at the end of his tether when his posts start with "wake up"

Its all getting boring now, we know that Ashley won't invest in the club and he has always stated that the club must be self sufficient.

I still watch the games in the hope that I may see a good performance, but the only joy I've had in 35 years is beating man utd 5-0.

Look on the bright side Vida, JFK isn't in charge which would have been the case 12 months ago.

desree

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25 Jan 2015 12:58:36
Desree he might still get involved as might any other plonker That is the worrying point.

vida

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26 Jan 2015 02:36:04
You are right Vida. Why does everyone keep saying Mike ashley is a smart business man? How can anyone smart hire JFK twice?

desree

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19 Jan 2015 23:35:04
@GeordieTom. I was thinking the same as you so did some digging at the wkd. I have a friend that is an accountant for Man City, he claims that most in football know the reason for a swift departure is gambling. Allegedly Ashley settled Parsees debt of 5mil prior to him signing the 8 year deal, but since they have had a big row over it. Palace where in the know, bought the debt off Ashley plus lined his pocket some more and hey presto everyone's a winner. I'm also told that this will be all over UK media very soon. watch this space??!!

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20 Jan 2015 13:26:57
hybay. i do respect what your saying. but surely. if its going to hit the media soon ( without the press having any proof of what has gone on ) to print what you've said about pardew and ashley they are leaving them selvs open to court cases ect. all we want is for the people at the top at our club to be honest with us fans /supporters. but they don't give a toss about us.

geordietom

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20 Jan 2015 21:42:01
Hybay: call me an old cynic, but I don't believe a word of this. I'll watch this space, but won't be holding my breath.

Vic

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21 Jan 2015 00:49:10
On this basis did Ashley lose a bet with JFK and in order to settle the debt he had to give him a job - twice?

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18 Jan 2015 18:26:51
Remi Garde was on Canal+ today, and responded to a question about Newcastle "no comment"

JToon   JToon
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18 Jan 2015 21:44:02
he actually said “I can’t say anything today. ”

geordietom

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19 Jan 2015 09:27:15
Good sign

JToon JToon

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23 Jan 2015 09:13:20
aucun commentaire je ne peux pas dire quoi que ce soit aujourd'hui that what remi garde said

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18 Jan 2015 12:46:31
Heard from a very good source that Alan Curbishley could be the next newcastle manager.

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18 Jan 2015 15:52:27
and wheres that the chronicle sure i saw it in the chron as well. hope not swapping one pardew for another

geordietom

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17 Jan 2015 22:12:50
what team let's a manager go without having a replacement waiting in the wings to take over is there some sort of hidden agenda ? any one got ideas thoughts on this. because I've racked my brains only thing i can come up with is Ashley taking us all for mugs taking as much out of the club as he can. is he putting his money into rangers while our team is struggling. ED you any thoughts on all this. or are you just as much in the dark as everone who comes on here. last thing Carver ain't the man for the job

geordietom

I'd heard Carver was the front runner - but maybe results have resulted in Ashley having second thoughts.

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18 Jan 2015 10:17:30
International break now, perfect time to get new head coach in

JToon JToon

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18 Jan 2015 11:26:59
JT in an ideal world yeah. it is perfect time to get a new head coach in. at this moment JT i'd have michael laudrup and i ain't having a slant at you m8. Carver's no good for us we need someone with new ideas new methods ect. and a new forward centre half ect ect

geordietom

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19 Jan 2015 16:06:07
Agreed just want to see some freshness and good football

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13 Jan 2015 12:28:55
Not so sure how true it is but a quite reliable source has told me that only thing sticking the Garde deal is that he wants his 2 coaches alongside him which means Ashley would have to pay up Carver and Stone contracts. Surely he would have plenty of money left from Pardews alleged 3.5m compensation after he had paid these 2 off? Sooner the better i hope.

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One of those is a GK coach but Woodman hasn't followed Pards yet. I would guess if that happened MA would allow incoming manager to bring a coach or 2 with them but one of the conditions is likely to be that Stone and Carver stay.

geordietoon

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Fairey it is not true Carver will be installed until the end of the season even if he loses the next 3 matches

vida

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Thanks for ruining my day Vida!

desree

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Vera, what makes you think Carver will get it? Do you not think he would have been appointed by now if he was?

faircomment

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I hear Carver will be left in charge until the Summer and if that upsets you tough (my source a journalist)
I'm not happy about it either but if some on here want to dream then dream on No one seems to like the facts.

vida

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Think it is a no brainer Carver will stay until the end of the season in charge and Ashley will gamble that he can keep Newcastle up.

We all know he knows the players than anyone and the fact Ashley does not want bring in any new players fits Ashley's mould perfectly.

News we do not want to hear but if it is a fact no good shooting the messenger.

art

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Fairey I can't see any other solution my source really is in the dark as well I think but he hear's things we don't, perhaps he is wrong but I don't think so.

JC (we really have not seen what he can do as he is in the wake of Pardew)
Getting 5 wins should be possible and of course as has already been said allows Ashley not to spend any money and pocket what comes in and blame it all on JC.

Ashley is a businessman who knows very little about football and will never allow wholsale change.

Finally Carver knows how the Ashley system works and therefore allows himself to be used and not have to ask for anything different in the way the club is ran.

vida

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Totally agree with what you are saying Vera about Carver BUT didn't Pardew get the Job without even being in the betting? Nothing to say Ashley won't shock/upset us more. i'm hoping that the new interest in Rangers from other parties has shocked him into lowering his ridiculous asking price for us ( rumoured to be £350m ) and find a buyer as quick as possible. After all Rangers seems to be his destination now.

faircomment

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16 Jan 2015 21:37:56
Vida: as you say, your journo friend is as much in the dark as the rest of us - if he really knew anything his paper would splash the exclusive. Charnley, Carr and Ashley don't tell anybody what they're thinking, but if Carver's their choice it would be done and dusted by now. No brainer really.

Vic

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Well Vic now that your glass in half empty like the rest of us you as normal seem have the edge so let's just wait and see. not long to wait.

vida

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18 Jan 2015 15:07:19
No, Vida, my glass is totally empty. With carver in charge a relegation fight is certain. We don't have the points to escape like last year and the players have no motivation to battle. I don't blame Carver for this; the policy of not going for the cups does it. The only hope is a new boss who can shake things up - who? I've no idea.

Vic

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10 Jan 2015 17:58:05
Down here in devon, in the papers there is talk of Paul tisdale going to Newcastle. i don't know if it's as manager or coach. coach I should imagine.

dazza300674

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Useless papers then, just like we have in the NE.

vida

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09 Jan 2015 15:55:58
Frank de Boer has responded to being linked with Newcastle by saying "I am honoured by the interest from Newcastle United, but for the next six months I am only focusing on Ajax"

Hinting at a possible move?

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As much as I think he would be a great coach for us I hope we do not hold out till the summer for him unless we have a pre-contract signed otherwise we will not get him as I am convinced he will end up at Barcelona next season. Given a choice between coaching a team of incredible players albeit at a club that will still have a transfer embargo, or one with a team of average players at a club that has an apparent transfer embargo due to the ridiculous bloke who owns the club which would you choose.

SpireToon

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Agree with that spire

JToon JToon

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09 Jan 2015 09:31:01
a paper is reporting Newcastle have six names on their shortlist of potential managers: St Etienne boss Christophe Galtier, ex-Lyon manager Remi Garde, Borussia Monchengladbach's Lucien Favre, former Mainz boss Thomas Tuchel, ex-Stuttgart manager Bruno Labaddia and Real Madrid assistant Paul Clement.

If this is true I'd be happy with any one of them. Imagine their delight at having the amoebi brothers to coach! Shola is on his way back apparently

desree

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Des he is back and in the Big Market with his brother Happy New Year man

vida

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Although Tuchel is my preference, he and Garde worry me that they've needed to take time out of their relatively early management careers for personal reasons. It wil be ten times worst than they've ever experienced before in Newcastle.

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06 Jan 2015 21:08:51
Remi Garde evens to become Newcastle manager. GFN claiming that we've made contact with him.

JToon   JToon
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Well I never read that and here I am in France.

Might as well get Fire Guard it will be more efective

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06 Jan 2015 07:03:01
Newcastle have had a loan bid turned down for Milan winger M'Baye Niang

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03 Jan 2015 13:24:28
With regards to a new manager the board are keen to try and get Thomas Tuchel to sign up as manger at the end of the year with carver taking the reigns until the end of the season. NUFC need to get him signed up asap as he is seen as a possible successor to Jurgen Klopp if dortmund are still playing poorly.
Incoming signings that are priority are a centre back and striker. There are the whispers of Ings, Austin and Rhodes all being linked but i doubt anyone will join. Van dijk is top priority for 8 million but there is plenty of interest around the premier league. Nastasic is available for loan. A new striker will not be bought due unless sissoko or tiote was sold.

DannoToon

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06 Jan 2015 15:02:34
It will be the same as always, no incoming players and only out goings.

Will probs sell sissoko and won't bring anyone in.

Know one worth while getting as manager or coach at this time of year so looks like will be Carver till the summer.

Have we got enough to stay up?

DR. Toonman

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08 Jan 2015 16:48:36
DrT: so you were up the Amazon in the summer, when we signed - what was it, NINE new players?

Vic

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Now Now Vic

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31 Dec 2014 00:00:45
Latest news lads is that Mike Ashley has given Lee Charnley (and supposedly Graham Carr) a week to draw up a shortlist of managers. However whoever comes in will have the title "Head-coach"

JToon   JToon
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As long as carver and stone are out of the reckoning

Destoon

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Yes we all read that as well JT

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30 Dec 2014 00:54:58
Ed surely it can't be true that Coloccini is going to become manager? He has no qualifications and no experience whatsover it would be a joke if he's appointed.

JToon   JToon

{Ed001's Note - I believe he is under consideration as a caretaker manager mate. That is all. Though a good run under him might see him become the cheap option, and Ashley does like cheap options.}

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Nor did KK

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29 Dec 2014 19:54:46
the chronicle is saying peter beardsley could step up as caretaker manager. another thing. it can only happen to wor team halfway thru the season bad timing as far as iam concerned

geordietom

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Your opinion has more credibility than the Chronicles Geordie Tom. We are going nowhere under Pardew. Could Beardsley be the man to get the most out of cabella, perez and make us a more attacking unit.

desree

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I think he will be the man to turn to as an interim manager atleast till the end of the season. I think he would play a better brand of football and would be the best man at filtering through our younger players. Whether he would succeed or not I'm not sure but I am sure the we will not get De Boer or any manager who is employed by any club. Ashley will see it as an expense not needed. I hope its not Pulis as it will be naff football, he would look to free agents as such: Di Matteo, Lennon, Remi Garde, Patrick Kluivert, Rijkaard.

DannoToon

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29 Dec 2014 21:11:14
Let's not get too pessimistic about P45's successor - the football can hardly get worse. Instead, let's celebrate our victory tonight (as soon as the news is confirmed, of course). It looks as though we wore the cocky c*** down - Ashley take note we can do the same again if you appoint another a***licker.

Vic

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Desree only saying what i read. so my next thing is what i read steve bruce is interested if and when pardew goes so who's your choice then des ( chris houghton ). i'd let beardsley have a crack at the job for now. we can all spought names but who's going to take the job ? your man in oz you keep spouting on about ?

geordietom

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Geordie Tom - I think Beardsley deserves a shot. he knows the club, let's face it if he is half as good a coach as he is a player then we are in for a treat. He has played at the highest level and cabella, perez and de Jong could all benefit.

I think we could all do with seeing some attacking football.

desree

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100% agree with that last post des

JToon JToon

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Getting rid of pardew at any stage is never a bad thing

nickd

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Rather have Beardsley as caretaker than Carver in fact Pardew should take carver and stone with him, for a good while now our football has been hard to watch, (we always seem 2nd best even when we win) so things ant get any worse can they

Destoon

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29 dec 2014 16:47:25
breaking: s*n reporting that pardew is poised to become new palace manager after £2million fee of compensation agreed

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29 Dec 2014 00:32:03
Could ashley be rubbing his hands at the compensation package he could get for pardew?

JToon   JToon

Doubt that Palace want him that much to pay a compensation package.

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If pardew does go to palace we should go for a supposed palace target, Tony Popovic. he has done a great job with Sydney West. He won the a-league and asian champs league in the clubs 2nd and 3rd year. plays attacking football and his players are fit as greyhounds.

Not defending Pardew with this observation - he is doing a marginally better job than Rodgers, pochetino, martinez and dennis wises mate. There isn't anyone who can work miracles with this squad and we will always sell our best players.

desree

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Still de boer for me desree

JToon JToon

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De Boer has ruled himself out. To narrow search - Who is out of work and meek?

desree

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JT not long ago laudrup was you favourite

geordietom

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Geordietom
It seems that some people knew some inside information that myself and others didn't

JToon JToon

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28 Dec 2014 23:38:11
Good 3 points today but everton were very poor. Glad that ginger pirlo has got his first goal for us. Perez and Sissoko fantastic again.

Speculation about pardew going to palace hope it does happen but it seems like BS

JToon   JToon
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Why pay us 5m compo for Pardew? I wish it was true, but then who would come in? Martinez got 30 m to spend on one player and everton look worse than us!

desree

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05 Dec 2014 15:49:09
Just a quick one, I was told that Tiote is set to be sold and that the club were looking at Nigel De Jong as a replacement. Most likely that it would be in the summer the two moves happen, as De Jong is out of contract then. But certainly Nigel's reps have been sounded out regarding if he would be keen on a return to English football and if he would be looking to sign a pre-contract in January

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Please not nigel de jong.

I'd personally just buy a playmaker as we have Abeid and Colback who can both play as holding midfielders.

JToon JToon

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Nigel de Jong is 30 now and for that reason I can't see it. If Tiote goes I think its more likely we'll sign Dele Ali from Mk Dons. Colback and Abeid have been brilliant.

gmtoon

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I would love us to sign Ali, but I reckon he would come with a hefty price tag and fierce competition from liverpool. Kara is a name that has been floating around, he is a DM/CB playing for Genk. Could be used in defence if we have issues and if Abeid continues his form.

DannoToon

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Tiote might be sold but I can't see De jong, too old. We should have looked at Song before the 'ammers got him.

Jimmy1976

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Totally agree with that jimmy. I think he would have been the solution to our play maker problems, he's been giving west ham great control of games since he went there.

JToon JToon

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30 Nov 2014 09:19:02
read that arsenal are after sissoko, 15m.
We seem to always lose our best players in Jan, how can we build momentum. Was it really worth flogging Cabaye last Jan? Could we not arrange something like a loan back or only sell players in the summer?

Unless its compelling like Andy Carroll.

desree

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Sissoko has to be kept, Gouffran, Cisse, Williamson and possibly Tiote all need to be sold in January.

JToon JToon

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Agree Jtoon, although other clubs aren't keen on buying our worst players?!

desree

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Agree jtoon and i'd throw in sammyammy if anyone would take him

Destoon

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Yeh, Cisse has scored his seasons quota already. I'm not sure what has happened to Gouffran. Tiote I feel like he has been fooling us all into thinkng he was a great player!

Williamson is a decent lad but not PL standard.

Marveaux may be like a new signing when he comes back!

desree

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Desree.
Arsenal are still trying to sign Khedira and failing that Kramer from Leverkusen so fingers crossed they'll leave Sissoko alone. He is bound to be the centre of rumours by the way he is playing.

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28 Nov 2014 12:52:31
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04 Nov 2014 21:57:41
Yohan Cabaye expected to be sold/loaned in january.

Newcastle in with a chance?

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I wish. We would really be firing with him back in the team. Can we make a move for demba too?

desree

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Better Playmakers out there.
Cabaye wants Champions league football. He won't get that at Newcastle

Cabaye means Sissoko playing wide best leave Cabaye where he is and concentrate on the players we have and as we will and in January sell Tiote and Santon and buy Quality CB and Striker and a young up and coming Playmaker out of the De Rossi and Pirlo mould

vida

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Ed, not sure if I heard this probably but is it true we have first refusal ok Cabaye?

JToon JToon

{Ed002's Note - No.}

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Off to Real Madrid to replace Modric
One thing for sure NO debate about him coming back to NUFC like Remy has no interested in the Toon

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Vida why did Remy chose champs league football, working with Jose Mourinho and the likelihood of winning the league when he could have played for us?

Surely Cabaye won't be stupid enough to snub us so he can play for the biggest club in the world. What can he possibly gain by playing with Ronaldo, Bale, Khedira, Rodriguez.

desree

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Des Stotty cakes and Good Old Newcastle Food along with Broon Ale just did not figure in their life style
I don't think Pardew and Ashley's policies to finish mid table and no interest in winning cups had anything to do with it.

There again

vida

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Cabaye gets greggs cheese and onion pasties flown direct to Paris

desree

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Cabaye will not get in the Real Madrid team

Destoon

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Modric is better than Cabaye.

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27 Oct 2014 20:15:13
Some interesting developments at Rangers. None other than Derek Llambias is interviewing for the CEO role. Mike Ashley has to see Rangers as a serious investment now surely?

If Newcastle get relegated then Ashley will have to give up one of the clubs. He seems to have shown more interest in Newcastle lately. Do you think he might be looking at Southampton and perhaps show a bit mor ambition?

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Des Llambias was kept happy for a while now, Ashley has cincerns what he might come out with
Snakes in rhe grass m8 bet you seen a few of them where you are

vida

{Ed007's Note - Mike Ashley has only given the club currently trading as Rangers a £2m LOAN in exchange for 2 seats on the board and security over 2 of the club's main assets, the Albion Car Park and Edmiston House. Ashley's influence at the club has grown but he already has the naming rights to Ibrox and also runs the club's retail department, he doesn't need to invest anything, if anything it will be more and more loans to keep them solvent. If it hadn't been for the £2 million loan the club currently trading as Rangers would have went administration. The £2 million loan is expected to run out at the end of November or beginning of December.
I keep saying it, there is nothing worth Mike Ashley investing serious money in the club currently trading as Rangers, he has everything that makes money sewn up in onerous contracts, and that's without us going old ground about the actual financial difference in income from an SPFL team (who MIGHT, and that's hell of a big MIGHT) get into the Champions League group stages within the next at least 5 years, if they're lucky, and ANY EPL team who has the guarantee a share from the SlyTV deal down there. The club currently trading as Rangers need major investment in the coaching staff (they don't have any scouting set-up), the team, Ibrox Stadium and their training ground. He wouldn't get much change from £100 million, and that's a conservative estimate, the stadium is a crumbling mess to the extent they airbrush official photographs of the outside to smarten it up.
Is Mike Ashley going to invest that and keep paying the running costs all for the chance of getting £2 million for winning the SPFL and a slim chance of circa £10-15 million if they reach the CL group stages? Newcastle received £78.8 million from TV alone last season, he wouldn't even make that much from the Ibrokes side winning the CL. People are saying that he would get free advertising in the CL, but that's bollox, CL official sponsors are used in the games, the pitchside adverts etc
Mike Ashley has had the money coming into the club currently trading as Rangers sewn up for months, all him giving them this £2 million loan has done has strengthened his grip on their income for very little output, and his output was only a loan.
What state do you think any club is in if it needs to borrow £2 million in October just to tide them over, Mike Ashley isn't interested in Rangers, he's only interested in protecting his income from them, and he's done that already. Mike Ashley does not own any more of the club than he did last month but he does have more power.
I wonder when he will ask for the £2 million back? I'd say when he knows they don't have it which will give him ownership of the Albion Car Park and we'll see a nice new Sports Direct Superstore built on it.
I've explained before about how things work up here with the press, Newcastle fans shouldn't pay any attention to it. The press an the supporters have championed every spiv that has came through the door for years, the press described Craig Whyte as 'a billionaire wealth of the radar' he bought the club for a £1 and couldn't even afford to paye PAYE and NI although he deducted it from the player's wages, they're grasping at straws up here but the truth is Mike Ashley doesn't need to do any more, he's got all the bases covered, retail, naming rights of Ibrox (for £1), 2 men on the board and control over 2 major assets, and he still doesn't own more than 10% of the club. I expect he will ask for Ibrox as security for his next loan and Murray Park (the training ground) for the loan after that. He's also supposedly working on a deal where him and Charles Green will own the club crest and brand and will rent it to the club to use, they will also look at renting back Ibrox to the club if they can secure ownership of it as described above.
We're still waiting on a court case between Craig Whyte and Charles Green over ownership of the club, it might not have been Charles Green's to play with after all.}

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Good assessment ed
I agree with you, with the large amounts of money Ashley is making from Newcastle with the tv deals etc. there is no benefit in him selling newcastle and buying Rangers.

The only thing we can hope for under Ashley is that the penny drops and the wallet losens a little. I've always thought someone like Nicola Cortese who is out of work, a footballing-business man who I think would be great working alongside MA, and can guide and develop newcastle as a PROPER football club and still keep the profits flowing in for Ashley.

JToon JToon

{Ed007's Note - Cheers, JToon, that's appreciated mate. Look I'll hold my hands up and freely admit that I'm a Celtic supporter and as a Celtic supporter I am taking the greatest delight in seeing the ongoing problems at Ibrox, who wouldn't if it was one of their rivals that went bust, were liquidated and made the same mistakes with their ew club, would you feel sorry for Sunderland going into liquidation or vice versa?
And before I get accused of just being some bitter Celtic fan here's a newspaper article from a Scottish newspaper dated the day AFTER my above post on here about Ashley wanting control of the clubs crests and badges. I'm not on here trying to diss the club currently trading as Rangers (although as a side issue it's amusing), I'm just trying to give you NUFC fans a clearer picture than what the Scottish media as a whole will do, papers like the Daily Record and the Scottish S*n aren't going to tell the truth in case it upsets their target audience which is the Ibrox club's fanbase, they've been caught out doing it so many times there's far too many to even start listing them.}

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Ed7 Whilst your on what happened to the 78m

vida

{Ed007's Note - That's the £78m question buddy, nobody knows! Charles Green bought a chateau in Normandy and moved over there, he's supposedly sold his shares but there's no paperwork to back that up. Board members and the manager (£800k salary for managing in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th tier of Scottish football, who's kidding who here?) were getting 100% bonuses for winning the leagues, directors getting 100% as a settlement when they were leaving, it was a constant gravy train with money flying out the door in all directions to Charles Green and his associates. Their wage bill for playing staff is something like £7/8 million which isn't a lot in the grand scheme of things but they were paying this for a team to play against brickies and postman for the first 2 years after the club was relaunched, there were young lads finishing their shift on a Saturday at 12 bells and rushing to play at Ibrox, it was a joke. McCoist is a terrible manager and an even worse coach, he wasn't capable of building a young team and progressing through the leagues that way, banking money as they went along. The fans wouldn't have accepted that though, they have such a superiority complex and are so far up their own ar$es they think it's their divine right to be at the top of the Scottish game, no matter what needs to be done to get there, some supporters are calling for administration or even liquidation just so they can shed their debts again, after stiffing 276 creditors to the tune of £55 million before, from the local face painter (£40) and newsagents (£567) to the millions owed to HMRC.
This is just the next step in the same plan, to make as much money out of it as possible for shadowy anonymous hedgefunds and money mad men like Charles Green and Ashley.}

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Very interesting Buddy but surely 78m must show in the accounts as income. Problem is it takes 1 year minum to see those accounts

Lets face it like AEK Greece Rangers are needed in the top division even if it let's the Celtic fans and I know many justify why they are No 1 in Scotland.

vida

{Ed007's Note - Have a wee read at this, that explains it better than I could lol. As for having them in the top division, I think I'll decline to comment on that one except that after what they done as the old club with the finances and have now ran the new club the exact same way shouldn't be allowed, in any country with any club, you can't justify what is basically cheating just because of TV money or sponsorship when other clubs are struggling trying to run themselves according to their income and do things the right way. It was because of Rangers spending money they shouldn't have been spending a lot of Scottish clubs ended up having problems from trying to keep up best they could, it's only over the last couple of years a lot of smaller teams have sorted themselves out.
If Man Utd were relegated and the EPL said we can't relegate Man Utd, they're the biggest draw in the league would you agree with it? Think of this scenario, it's pure fiction and not based on any hard facts before I get the Russian Mafia and Ed002 afer me! How about Abramovich getting into money trouble and it coming out that all his spending was actually a Russian bank's money and he hadn't spent a dime of his own money, he'd pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. So Chelsea get liquidated and end up relaunching in the 3rd Division down there and another Russian buys the assets for £5m, a few months later it turns out the new owner is one of Ambramovich's close pals and Chelsea are spending crazy money again paying EPL wages in the 3rd Division etc Then after a couple of years they're sitting top of the Championship, the place is still a financial mess, nobody knows who owns what and they are borrowing money from month to month to even meet wage bill, there's even court cases hanging over them regarding ownership, would they even be allowed promoted to the EPL with FFP rules and do you think that's fair on teams who are working hard and trying to stick to their budget, someone like Burnley for example getting relegated and this new Chelsea 2 get promoted? Surely that's not fair, to me that's cheating. Burnley could have went and borrowed multi-millions and not bothered about any of the consequences. There's got to be a line drawn somewhere and I'm hoping, if implemented in the right way, the FFP will help even things out but we all know that's a big IF.}

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26 Oct 2014 21:44:36
Well done to the winners of the October Correct Score Competition
1st - tomhen 32 pts
2nd - rosowl 29 pts
3rd - ormerodm 28 pts

The page has now been updated for the start of the November comp - Good luck to everyone and a reminder it is open for everyone to join in.

Cheers
Ed 003

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07 Oct 2014 18:04:00
Newcastle have had their plans to redevelop the training facilities at Benton approved.

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I wonder if the people who ticked 'disagree' either don't believe they plans are approved (which they have) or they just don't agree with the club improving their facilities?

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