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01 Sep 2014 22:30:31
I understand why we would sell good players, but why snd them out on loan. Its a real shame to see us sign talented players and not help them realise their potential.

and our squad is small as it is, why put ourselves in a dangerous position and get no financial benefit from it. Good luck MYM and HBA, hopefully if you come back we have a manager in place who can get the best out of you.

desree

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I don't know what to say anymore. Over to Johnny Rotten. "ever get the feeling you've been cheated'

You hear so much but they deliver so little. Toon born and bred but my son is a liverpool fan all the way.

stoggin12

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I might become a Hull fan, they have a better team and manager than NUFC!

It is a joke that we buy players with such potential then let them rot or give them away for nowt or next to nowt.

Whilst I'm no fan of players lacking professionalism Pardew is the least professional manager we have ever had (apart from JFK).

1 step forward and 10 steps back to bottom of the league this season is my prediction.

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Worst thing is that we're probably still paying part of his wages. This was all down to Pards, get him out of this club.
I hope there's a call back clause, I want hba back when Pards leaves.

geordietoon

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At 8/1 on there's little chance of pards leaving anytime soon. I don't condone booing at games but the contempt which pardew has for fans intelligence deserves it.

desree

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What's worst still, Ashley let this happen. He's basically throwing away money because Pards fell out with HBA.

geordietoon

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Apparently he is in the huff with MYM too? Pardew has lost the dressing room everywhere he has managed.

If there is one thing that will get you sacked under Ashley then its losing him money.

desree

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01 Sep 2014 21:39:59
That 48 point target is looking a bit of a stretch now!

desree

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32 points will be the aim come January and that could well be relegation

vida

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01 Sep 2014 21:34:55
shefki Kuqi spotted at north shields ferry, he just asked my source for 4 quid so he could get the metro to St James park before deadline!

desree

{Ed024's Note - I'm guessing that's not true.........that ferry is £4.50.}

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Shefki Kuqi got on the wrong metro, he was on his way but has been stopped by checkies as he doesn't have a ticket. Looks like another one we couldn't get over the line!

desree

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01 Sep 2014 20:38:34
Are you actually serious Ben Arfa is apparently on his way to Hull after being forced out by pardew despite the player wanting to stay

JToon JToon
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Have just seen that as well, you just know he would torture us if that goes through.
Switch the box off boys, santa clause ain't stopping here!

trs1971

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I don't see Ben Arfa going but if he does he probably won't play against us because it's fairly standard to put in a clause preventing the player from playing against his parent club.

glasgowtoon

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The only positive I can see in that scenario is HBA looks like a 15m player. Ashley sees that as clear evidence Pardew is no good. We bring in Steve Bruce who HBA loves playing for and we actually have a decent boss who cares about the club. Bruce is used to dealing with mental owners and will handle Ashley well.

Dreaming I know but I can't handle another relegation.

desree

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01 Sep 2014 14:17:11
Rumours that we're moving for Nastasic on loan since Alderweireld may be going to Southampton, Richards is going to Fiorentina on loan and Celtic are trying to block Van Dijk from leaving.

glasgowtoon

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MYM spotted at Roma. Ridiculous he's our best CB at the club while Steven Tayor is just there laughing

JToon JToon

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Jermain defoe is on his way to toon.
in the race for welbeck aswell

stetoontoon

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01 Sep 2014 15:09:34
Defoe won't happen, Welbeck won't happen. Newcastle need or should have got rid of fringe players that are not good enough. instead we loan out MYM (who should be ahead of Taylor by miles). There are plenty of players that could have gone but its getting too late in the day. BTW we wasted too much time on trying to get that Lyon forward. I would have gone for Bacca, Richards and Sinclair. nevermind

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31 Aug 2014 22:59:30
I can just see us letting Mbiwa go and then not getting a replacement and being left with Taylor Williamson and Collo, what's happened to Curtis Good

Destoon

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Injured I think isn't that why he missed the world cup? Although I may have seen something saying Dundee wanted him on loan again so maybe he's there.

glasgowtoon

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01 Sep 2014 11:39:11
Mbiwa would be our best centre back in my opinion if we played him for a bit, Curtis Good is still injured after being ruled out of the World Cup.But where are Streete and Mbabu?

ToonMatt

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31 Aug 2014 10:35:39
Apparently we are set to sign Toby Alderweireld on loan with a view to buy from Atletico. Former Ajax team mates Vurnon Anita and Siem de Jong helped him choose Newcastle over the likes of Liverpool, Southampton and Arsenal.

JToon JToon
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Apparently JT. what about all the other apparently's Know Anything because we are poor very poor

vida

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What we have seen so far the team is one of the poorest in the Premiership
and unless something exceptional happens by tomorrow night & essential players are brought in the season will get worse not better

art

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Yeah we've not won yet, but I think its a bit early to panic. Were just taking a little while to get settle down. And some of the clubs who will ultimately struggle have had a good start. No need to panic just yet. See how the first game back after break goes.

We do need one player in though - either a defender to stop goals goiing in or a striker to balance out the goals we will let in!

danieljp

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He must have had a good chat with anita, jaanmat and de jong as his preference is southampton

desree

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Yep Desree your right thst is whete he us going

art

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28 Aug 2014 16:10:14
Reports that Ashley has accepted we need a goal scorer and has approved a move for Remy who you'd imagine is desperate to get out of QPR

glasgowtoon

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29 Aug 2014 13:20:49
He has snubbed us yet again, we need bin this guy off yes he is a good player but the club is bigger than him and he doesn't think it is, I'm sure we all want players that want to play for us he doesn't so leave him be now is what I say.

ToonerLR

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Off to chelsea to fill demba ba's bench spot.

desree

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Jamie redknapp has said that arsenal and chelsea have both been watching his situation and he will be sitting at a new club by monday. He is keen on Arsenal as he is french, but an extra bit of russian money would soon persuade him get pitch side seats watching costa

DannoToon

{Ed024's Note - I'll have a £5 on Chelsea.}

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28 Aug 2014 15:44:14
toon are trying to get danny welbeck and micah richards in before the window closes. welbeck to be toons main striker and richards as CB to partner collo.
also ben arfa is coming back into the 1st team.

mbwia is on way out

stetoontoon

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28 Aug 2014 15:54:03
Mbwia is on his way out, Richards is a possibility. Welbeck . . not a chance.

Michipper

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Richards maybe. I know Pardew would like Welbeck but it's unlikely. Mbiwa's agreed to move back to France but I don't think the club's agreed anything yet.

glasgowtoon

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Don't understand why M'Biwa is on his way out when Taylor is nowhere near the player MYM is

JToon JToon

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Wellbeck will want champ league football but tbh I don't rate him up there as a central striker, too much of the same as we have already. We should go nesting next door and get whickham from the mackems, big strong kid with an eye for goal.
Along with Richards that would get bums on seats. come on Ashley one last splash out!

trs1971

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We don't do transfer deadline day buys as the players are overpriced. Players out yes, players in no, unless they come in on loan.

I reckon Ashley would rather play upfront himself then splash 16m on Remy

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27 Aug 2014 20:48:45
Newcastle have made an offer for Micah Richards while Marseille have reportedly approached us for Mapou Yanga-M'Biwa in a loan deal with a view to buy.

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27 Aug 2014 11:59:04
Reports that we are going to push for either Remy or Lacazette before the end of the window as both initially turned us down in the hope of going to a CL club (ie more money) but since that hasn't happened we may have a chance.

glasgowtoon

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Neither want to play for us so why even try to buy them.

DR. Toonman

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25 Aug 2014 21:23:51
Hi Danish Chelsea fan here in peace.

In Danish media there is circulating a rumor about Newcastle being interested in Andreas Cornelius of Fc. Copenhagen, do you eds know anything about that? And what do you fans say about it?

KTBFFH

{Ed024's Note - I've not heard anything but if he was to come it would only be on loan - no Club would pay out a fee given how disastrous he was at Cardiff last year.}

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This is newcastle Ed!

desree

{Ed001's Note - good point, but that does also make it more likely it will be on the cheap.....}

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25 Aug 2014 22:34:04
We have 7 CB's on our books lads. we won't be signing anyone unless we lose a couple. Pardew will be instructed to play the kids. We need to be giving guys like curtis good a run in the team than going for vvd. caulker and dier were there for the taking if a cb was on our shopping list. No more signings but I can see tiote, ben arfa and mym going on d day.

desree

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28 Aug 2014 16:32:12
Steven Taylor is crap, Steele and Satka will play like 1 cup game and M'Bwia will go on loan

Crawfordladd17

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25 Aug 2014 14:34:06
ben arfa is going to return to the 1st 11 and revealed by pardew as a new signing mike ashely thinks a great idea.

stetoontoon

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Honestly if Pardew brings Ben Arfa back into the squad that's fine with me. The thing is that it could go one of two ways. Either he makes our attacks more direct which we need to do because we're over playing in the midfield and not getting the ball to Riviere. Or he'll be inconsistent and lazy when defending and get booted straight back to the reserves.

glasgowtoon

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He'll be gone on deadline day like barton

desree

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22 Aug 2014 16:02:59
Mike Ashley in talks to buy Australian club Newcastle Jets!

JToon JToon
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Desree will be happy Perhaps he can have a word with him

vida

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I think the australian guy wants him to be, not sure ash is actually in talks though.

nickd

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The current owner has said it costs a transfer fee to run the club so we know that deal won't happen

glasgowtoon

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The Kangaroos might do what we should gave done 6 years ago

art

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Emile heskey was their best player lads. There is a heaton, morpeth, jesmond and wallsend. 75 mins into the game with Villa, we look about 5 players short of a decent team!

desree

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Well all I can say lads is that the jets owner is a propper wrong un, he makes ashley look like an angel. think the love child of sir john hall and a plastic gangster and you have Nathan tinkler!

desree

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Neil Warnock, Pardews mate reckons the 10th signing will be revealed on Sunday.

69gm

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Desree, I thought we were a Ben Arfa short of being a good team.

geordietoon

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Van Dijk was left out of Celtic squad yesterday, is this the 10th signing?

69gm

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21 Aug 2014 11:31:44
Reports that we are strong favourites to sign centre-back, Virgil van Dijk

JToon JToon
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JT we have been favourite to sign 10
players in the last 2 weeks
Think wait until next week before any possability happens especially if Celtic win & someone is first Sold

art

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Another boumsong?

desree

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Please no, have seen him a few times and he looks dreadful.

Mickthemag

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If we are strong favourites then it must mean no one else is interested?

desree

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20 Aug 2014 22:50:40
Daily Mail reporting that we have turned down a £4 million bid for Tiote from Lokomotive Moscow and we are demanding £14 million for him.

glasgowtoon

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I also read we are preparing an 8m offer for virgil v d of celtic. If its true why didn't we go for caulker?

We've missed the boat re CB's and if Tiote goes then our defence is very frail

desree

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And what's wrong with that just like we demanded 25m for Cabaye & got 20m

Ashley needs some pocket money letting the transfer window come to a close

Expect something to happen of we loose on Saturday if not everything stays the same no CB no Striker

vida

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19 Aug 2014 17:24:00
The rumours keep going about Micah Richards, with Scott Sinclair now also mentioned.
Think both would be valuable additions to the squad but they going to have to take a pay cut, but can live in hope.

trs1971

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Would take them however we still need a top goal scoring striker and a commanding centre back wouldn't mind taking Nastasic from them as well.

JToon JToon

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Not with Ashley we can't

art

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2 good players but where would Sinclair play?

Mickthemag

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Possibly last minute or after the Villa match Sad really 2 players could make a massive difference and give a real chance of 6/7 place

art

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If we were remotely interested in a CB then surely we would have gone for dier or caulker who would have better sell on value and have cheaper wages?

I have accepted that this is our business done now. Perhaps Pardew is being assessed on his ability to develop players this season.

desree

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Agree Desree unles something falls off the top shelf and is cheap otherwise forget it
After all Ashley is happy to finish mid table and does not want cup silverware
So there is a chance for that to happen BUT this team although better has NO chance of making the top 7

vida

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Agree vida, ashley has done enough to keep us in the PL this season. With his interest in Rangers I reckon he is looking to take cash out to pay back his loan. The new signings meanwhile will add some value and make it more attractive to a potential buyer. Hopefully he has a buyer for the club!

desree

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17 Aug 2014 20:31:23
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14 Aug 2014 23:09:44
Rumours Richards deal arranged let's hope so

vida

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£4.2million is the fee apparently, he'd be a great signing.

JToon JToon

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He'll be in toon on Sunday, I guarantee it!

desree

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So a chronic injury record, alleged bad attitude and being a RB more than a CB, not a problem then.
The guy makes Saylor look like a member of Mensa!

nickd

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Nickd so let's hope he does not come then and we can all be happy

vida

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Vida

Well thought out response there I see.
I would be happy with a good New centre half or 2, that we desperately need, but preferably one whom all the above don't apply to. Well they do say ignorance is bliss.

nickd

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Now now children calm down. simple truth of the matter is any new signing comes with a risk. they can be world beaters at one club and useless at another. they can be injury prone one season and ever present the next. you simply never know. but if its straight forward potential that you look at and you base it on a fit, commited Richards then I believe if you get all that right then you will have in theory a very cood CB. there is no doubting he has the ability to be a good defender. this is where the coaching and fitness staff come in. and before you say yes I know we don't have a great record on that front but still.

niktoon

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Richards started out as a CB

JToon JToon

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I would like to see bassong back at the club if we are going for a cb

desree

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Yes Nick my 1 0 level sometimes comes in handy

vida

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We can't afford his wages unless we get rid of HBA, Guiterez or and Saylor.

Our business is done lads unless we sell. expect some deadline day deals.

desree

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15 Aug 2014 22:04:17
Why not take Richards on loan for the season.

Will let us see his fitness/reliability more closely.

DR. Toonman

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Toonman that us too sensible
Rber we have Charnley
Who is new to the job and has done well But he has no say & Sshley knows nothing about footballers only what they cost

vida

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Obviously the rumour was not true
Ashley won't spend

art

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I fully expect us to spend again, but only if players leave. If we sign a central defender, it will only be because one of MYM, Saylor, Colo or Willo will have left.
If we sign a winger, only of HBA or Jonas has gone.
Striker - well that's where i'm not sure. I feel we will react if the right player became available at the right price.

geordietoon

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Thanks Mike. Let's see if you open your air proof pockets

vida

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14 Aug 2014 14:09:53
Rumours that we want Liverpool CB Coates on loan. The Spanish press is linking us with a move for 20 year old Malaga midfielder Sergi Darder. Also Clement Grenier wants to leave Lyonshall so maybe something will happen there.

glasgowtoon

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Why are the all Free Ashleys not interested in spending any of 77m he is sitting on.
Only chance if HBA & Tiote are sold we might buy one player

art

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13 Aug 2014 18:48:53
Now there are rumours that we have offered Palermo €10million for Abel Hernandez

JToon JToon
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Keep it coming JT

vida

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13 Aug 2014 17:44:33
Alex Song rumoured to be lined up as Tiote replacement, would love that to happen but I highly doubt it

JToon JToon
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Anything can gappen but I don't think this will

art

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This has come from one of the most unreliable sources on twitter, so its bull****

JToon JToon

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Ashley wouldn't pay half his wages

RichRussian

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12 Aug 2014 12:49:15
Tiote will be next to leave, zaha signing lined up as a replacement to HBA.
Grenier being lined up when tiote is sold.

desree

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Yes to Grenier. Meh leaning towards no to Zaha. Tiote leaving wouldn't be the end of the world although I'm not convinced by any of the rumours concerning him.

glasgowtoon

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Tiote is a key player to us, he's someone who can break down attacks and handle number 10s.

JToon JToon

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Thing is JT he has played no pre season I think he will be gone
In the meantime think best to judge at 1st Sept as rumours everywhere

art

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He also gives away stupid fouls in dangerous areas, picks up needless cards, mucks around dribbling in his own thit'd usually giving it away or going back to the keeper and every time he gets the ball within 30 yards of the goal he shoots and he's only been successful twice since he arrived at the club

glasgowtoon

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Dont think he will be first choice if he goes to the gunners may play in the cups but I think he will spend a lot of time on bench and in stands

Destoon

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Des tell him

art

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Ok I've sent him a text

Destoon

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It's true, he's flogging his camero as it is so difficult to drive round London

desree

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11 Aug 2014 16:27:06
In paper today
toon favourties to sign zaha from man u also front runners to get joel campbell on loan from arsenal.

what yous reckon smokescreen???

stetoontoon

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Paper talk I doubt we'll do any more business unless we can get one of our main targets.

glasgowtoon

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Who is the main targets glasgow lad?

stetoontoon

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Considering the only thing that's been said by Pardew is we need another striker (I know we need more than that don't start) but since our supposed targets at the start of the summer were Lasogga (signed for Hamburg) PEA (staying at Dortmund) Lacazette (staying at Lyon) and I guess Grenier although we have Cabella and de Jong I don't think we'll go for him.

glasgowtoon

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Shame Joe Kinnear is gone, the media would pay a bucketload for his rants!

desree

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No more signings now unless a player leaves due to wage cap. although there seems to be a clear disregard from Man city for the ffp rules!
In Australian rugby league they have a salary cap for clubs. Melbourne were found to have rorted their cap (like man city) they were stripped of 3 titles and had to play the rest of the season unable to earn any points from a game. Harsh but I think man city, PSG etc need to be punished with disqualification from comps and points penalties.

desree

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Can't see anymore attacking players join until Ben Arfa and Jonas leaves. Unless of course someone becomes available for a knockdown price which isn't likely the closer we get to the window closing.

geordietoon

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HBA Tiote one or 2 more because Fat A. E will not spend any of the money he has accumilated They reckon 77m TV and Sponsorship away away and that is a fact.

art

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Ben Arfas replacement should be Rolands

Destoon

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10 Aug 2014 19:38:23
arshley has banned pardew and players from talking to press wants media to pay for interviews. he's a greedy horrible man get out of our club

...del

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Can we keep this sight for rumours please the ranting and raving about how much people hate Ashley and Pardew has gotten old. If regular calls for resignations etc. made by tens of thousands doesn't work a handful of people moaning on a fan site won't make a difference. They're here and don't look like going anywhere fast get over it and yourselves.

glasgowtoon

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Great, hopefully it will improve the quality of journalism. If they have to pay maybe they will write something interesting for a change?

desree

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No more pardish, great move ashley.

nickd

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Think this is a great move. Stops them writing rubbish. Also means that the write ups we do get will be worth it! Business wise and as a fan I like this idea.

danieljp

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14 Aug 2014 22:49:55
What chance Tony Pullis for toon just left Palace

boback

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10 Aug 2014 12:19:44
Reports saying we're in the lead to sign Zaha. Does anyone know if there is any truth in this or is it the same thing as the rumours saying we wanted Micah Richards to replace Debuchy after we signed Janmaat?

glasgowtoon

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Id rather play Rolands, give the lad a chance to show what he has. who was the last person we sent on loan who came back better. Zaha went to Cardiff hardly played and is no better now than he was 2 years ago

Destoon

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Agree des, Aarons deserves his chance

JToon JToon

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Why do we keep getting linked to players we don't need. Smokescreen I reckon.

desree

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06 Aug 2014 22:06:12
Multiple sources reporting that Newcastle have agreed a fee for Lacazette of around £15 million in a deal which may or may not include Ben Arfa going the other way. Not sure what Lacazette thinks of a move with some saying he wants CL while others say he'd be up for a move.

glasgowtoon

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Fingers crossed it's true.

JToon JToon

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Hey Glasgow, I have been hearing similar reports, either with Ben arfa going or not, he will still be a great signing for the toon. Let's just hope this deal does not fall through. But I wouldn't understand why they wouldn't include Ben arfa because he isn't going to get played because of recent activity that have been happening. Also he has been saying that he wants to go back to France, so why would he not be in the deal?

SamToon

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06 Aug 2014 22:48:51
It would be a good signing but I think 15m plus Ben arfa may be a little steep. 10m max plus Ben arfa but I think if we do get him it will be less than that like 7 plus arfa

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I should clarify the reports say the fee could rise to £15 million so it could be £10 million now plus Ben Arfa rather than £15 million now.
As for why it may or may not include Ben Arfa I guess it could be the case that he would be used in a deal or the club may want to sell him in a seperate deal or they may not have given up on him and are punishing him to make a point since it's well known that he can have serious attitude problems.

glasgowtoon

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I reckon it will be a loan move for HBA with us paying half his wages.
Real shame as I think he is a superb talent and a proper manager like Martinez would have got the best out of him and seen him worth £20m +. yet another that has been Pardew'd.

SpireToon

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Lacazette does not want to sign for NUFC a bit like Remy If they don't want to play for Newcastle then move on
3 weeks to plug the gaps we have CB Striker Playmaket
We may all be surprised but there again
with Ashley probably not

vida

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07 Aug 2014 14:42:12
We don't need a playmaker, you want one, wee don't need a striker, we have bought 2 in already. It's ridiculous Ashley has spent money but you still complain it's ridiculous, obviously he hasn't been great in the past but this time he spends money and still yhe negative comments. The guy can't win.

kling22

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Another player who has little interest in playing for us, we're his last option if Lyon told him they needed him to leave he'd probably wait for other clubs to come in for him and only sign for us if no other deal is in the pipeline.

SC7

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Kling you are wrong, we DO need a play maker we do not have a central midfield player who can pass the ball accurately or consistently.

SpireToon

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Kling Rubbish Ashley has spent almost what has come in from transfers NO MORE and sits on almost 70m from last season We do not need a CB or Striker or Play Maker we are DESPERATE for them and if you open your eyes in the next 4 weeks you will see why!

art

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We don't need a playmaker as Cabaye was often used in the number ten role where he played some of his best games for us last season. De Jong and Cabella can both play there. Just because they don't make big 40 yard + passes doesn't mean they're not playmakers.

glasgowtoon

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07 Aug 2014 20:17:51
Glasgowtoon speaks sense, we don't need a playmaker we have cabella and de jong who were both creative players in there own teams and now we have both of them we don't have to have players playing the long balls across the pitch to be creative.our attacking play has improved over the summer, your requests are ridiculous the only improvement really not made is at cb. But if one isn't signed it won't be the end of the world we have got a good squad set up 7 new faces and they all look like they are improving the team.

kling22

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I reckon spiretoon is Greniers agent in disguise!

I agree with most of the comments above. I think we have done great business for attack and midfield.

I'm not sure if any of you lads are accountants or tax experts but I guarantee you Ashley has not put 70m in his back pocket. As the club still owes him 130m, if we want him to sell up then, quite rightly, he will collect his loan before putting the club up for sale.

I'm not an Ashley advocate but I am a fair and reasonable bloke.

desree

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Desree Simple question and recent one

Where did the 60m TV money from last season along with sponsorship money from W. er sponsorship

There is no mention of it and it will not be seen in the accounts ended June.

Ashley has spent approx 30m which is roughly what we have had in in transfers out. Also approx 60/65m since his tenure which is again which has been brought in from transfers.

People are getting sentimental because he has spent money on players coming and that is more positive than it was in the past apart when we bought 5 players in the January window to avoid relegation.

So he should strengthen the team just like other owners. He is in Newcastle to make money and he will.

We are short of 2 defenders a quality striker and play maker if they come great if not we will remain mid table.

art

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08 Aug 2014 11:04:03
Art the problem with what you are saying is that, you are saying we need these. 4 players the same when the window opened . So apparently none of the signings we have made are suitable in your eyes.

kling22

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None of them replace Cabaye to play alongside Tiote and don't even bother suggesting that Colback does.
Janmaat replaces Debuchy and is probablybetter IMO but where is the replacement for our other 3 defendeers that leaked nd lots of goals for the last 2 seasons?

SpireToon

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08 Aug 2014 12:17:28
I am so sick of people saying about Ashley and not spending the cash. And these quotes of the £60m for TV, it gets so boring. Same as saying we have made the made all the money we have spent through transfers. What people forget, if we sell two players for £30m, but then get in 5/6 new players, even if it is just for the £30m we spent, we still have to pay 5/6 players wages instead of 2. Now if you add those up, that is quite a few million a year for all those players.
Also, I think people forget Ashley said it will be a 4/5 year journey. He is trying to get the club stable financially and able to be self sufficient, because that's what we need, unless any of you guys are a billionaire who want to take over? He is getting a fantastic foundation, he is pumping money into the youth system (unlike the great Messiah Keegan, who nearly destroyed our youth system).
Now do not get me wrong, I have sworn, I have shouted and vented my anger at Ashley, he has made some questionable and truly spiteful decisions. But I think he is getting this club in the right direction.
Just because we have had 4 good seasons in the last 22 does not mean we are one of the top 5 teams in England. Yes we have great support but I think our supporters need to wake up and stop living in the Keegan and Robson days!

juliogeordio

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08 Aug 2014 12:22:13
Art - what has Mike Ashley done with the 60m from TV Rights you ask? You do realise that he has to pay the players don't you? The wage bill for 2012 was £64m!

axltoon

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Axltoon do you do realise that from gate money and ordinary every year TV money these expenses are covered.

art

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Julio gerodio
Rubbish Why can other clubs like Everton almost bankrupt 2 seasons ago buy players and Hull City WHam Swansea and a lot of other teams and that is forgetting the top 7 cubs who are spending mega bucks.

We are just seeing the tip of the iceberg because some of the players signed will have been told we expect top 6 BUT as it is it will not happen and if by the slightest chance it did look what happened when we finished 5th

art

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08 Aug 2014 14:13:05
Art - the TV money pays for the Wages. We generate 25m in gates per year, most of which goes to paying off our debts. Ashley has bought cheap and sold high, and is building a squad on the difference, it's a brilliant business plan! He's generated enough cash to rebuild the squad and has spent most of it! He's a business man and owns the club so he's entitle to make money! The time to worry is when the balance sheet is showing a negative, you don't want to end up like Leeds!!

axltoon

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Think it is simple Fans want to see the club at least compete and they are almost there BUT a CB Striker Play maker are essential to keep the team in touch with the top 7
We might get away with no play maker but we will not get away with out at least one defender who is quality and a Striker who can score week in week out

Whilst clubs with ambition and want to win silverware get the job done and pay the right price Newcastle Ashley wants everything at his price which is why we are still pondering.

vida

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Ashley gets such a hard time. His approach from a business perspective can not be argued - look at how stable the club is, and how we have a platform to build on for the future. I do feel for him, imagine how hard it must be to be a fan and be objective about it. I think people forget all the other costs in running the club - the 60m covers all that, and our debt. The fact we have been able to buy players without touching our tandard income is fantastic, and Ashley as shown that when it is needed he will spend money.

danieljp

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Danieljp Rubbish get your facts right
Ashley had made NUFC an average Premiership club
Future forget it Ashley now knows when to sell
This club will NEVER be a top club with Ashley as owner
At least at Everton who had nowhere near the money Ashley has, had out his heart and soul in the club.

vida

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Everyone has a point but nobody mentions the tax that has to be paid. We sold Cabaye for 19mill, how much tax did we have to pay on that?? I'd say around 40%ish?

JTG

{Ed007's Note - There are taxes, agents fees, taxes on agents fees, residual insurances, relocation expenses, arrangement fees all to be considered in addition to the transfer fee and then the wages.

As for transfer fees, what is paid by the buying club would typically include:

(a) Transfer fee - the big number.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the EPL.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool have spent £25M plus VAT on agent fees over the past three years leading to this window).
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches(what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (sometimes waived).
(n) Variables and tax on variables which may or may not be reclaimable) – these would typically include legal fees, moving/relocation costs, etc.. This was off the top of my head and I may well have forgotten something. The big numbers are the transfer fee, agent fees (as an example, Liverpool have spent £25M plus VAT on agent fees over the past three years) and possibly other intermediary fees (what do you mean you have a super agent?}

What is paid by the selling club would typically include:

(a) If the player is under 24, a Solidarity contribution paid to his previous clubs responsible for his training - this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(b) Any monies owed to the player if he did not request a transfer – again this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(c) Any monies owed to the player in terms of his contract (typically outstanding wages and bonuses).}

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09 Aug 2014 21:37:21
Lacazette spotted in toon tonight with agent and some friends apparently he is going to attend the match tomorrow at st james park and finalise move reported 10m with ben arfa doing one back to france.

stetoontoon

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Thanks Ed, someone with some facts for a change. Great to get some clarity around how the football business works.

desree

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Cheers muchly, that more than clears that up.

JTG

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06 Aug 2014 13:52:23
Newcastle being linked with a move for Celtic CB Virgil van Dijk if Celtic fail to qualify for the Champions League.

glasgowtoon

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He will be a great signing for the toon and will make the defense a lot stronger than it is now, with colocini's time is coming quickly and mike Williamson is just a clogger that wackos the ball up the field like he has nothing else to do.

SamToon

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05 Aug 2014 12:05:42
I see we've been linked with Lacazette again today. Does anyone think this guy is being used as a smokescreen by the club. We seem to sign other players when linked with this kid.

qball1983

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No body knows & seems that do are not interested
Think there will be a bit of last minute
business where we try steal someone
who fits Ashley's budget
Striker CB of quality needed NOW as is a decent playmaker

vida

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According to some reports we've agreed a deal for this guy. That's my theory out the window. lol

qball1983

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